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Episode 261 Living in 1984 - Socrates and Sticking to Your Guns

Episode 261 Living in 1984 - Socrates and Sticking to Your Guns
Episode 261 Living in 1984 - Socrates and Sticking to Your Guns
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Episode 261 Living in 1984 - Socrates and Sticking to Your Guns

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In Episode 261, Living in 1984 - Socrates and Sticking to Your Guns, Butterfly and Firefly talk about how Socrates chose to die rather than stop telling the truth, while the main characters in George Orwell's 1984 end up caving in under torture and accepting that 2 + 2 = 5.

Drawing parallels to George Orwell's 1984, we discuss the Ministry of Truth, the manipulation of information, social media censorship, disappearing comments, mysterious follower counts, and the growing difficulty of distinguishing reality from manufactured narratives. We also explore the symbolism of the wolf in sheep's clothing, the demand for submission, and the pressure to abandon independent thought.

From Socrates and his famous declaration that "the unexamined life is not worth living" to Jesus and the ultimate price of standing by one's convictions, we talk about what it means to stand for something other than just saving your own ass.

White Pill: As George Orwell says in his last interview before his death, "You are the solution."

0:11 Hey, I'm Butterfly. Hey, I'm Firefly. Have you ever wondered if we aren't being told the truth about everything? What have we been lied to about? Join us as we have conversations and ask questions about everything. We invite you to keep an open mind and consider the unfathomable. Let's break the chains that enslave our minds. Come on, let's go down the rabbit hole. Butterfly? Hey, Firefly, what's going on? Well, you had a great idea. Well, what year are we living in? I think it's 1984. I think it's 1984. Pretty sure. Yeah. I think we've been in 1984 for about 40 years.

1:00 Yeah. Maybe more. Just about maybe more. Yeah. Maybe 100 years. Probably closer. Yeah. Yeah. 1948 and 1984, that's weird. How they're interchangeable. That's why I think George Orwell um called it 1984 totally yeah because he knew 1948 was the year that we really got enslaved exactly yeah isn't that interesting how many things happened in 1948 well we got told that um every country in the world agreed that Antarctica was just for penguins and polar bears that's right nobody can go there Mao Tse -Tung. And he was 1948.

1:48 And then what else? That country from 1948. That's a big one. Totally. The UN. The UN. And the guy Herzog, he was like, we're going to exterminate the white race through miscegenation and importing third world barbarians by the billions. That was in 1948. What else happened in 1948? I think the CIA and FBI were created around that time. 1948 was a bad year. It was kind of when we moved into total tyranny, but it had kind of a guise of freedom. You know, I think, you know, it's been a long game and most people didn't really see any of that happening because it was kind of like behind closed doors, you know, they didn't really see any of that until really fairly recently.

2:46 And some people still don't see what's happening. But what happened? What what's happened like to us recently? We've been noticing and we keep talking about this censorship and how we get shadow ban. You know how we're being suppressed and everything. I'm an American dude. Yeah. Don't you ever suppress. Yeah, and we know it's happening. It's like they say that we have the First Amendment. They say we have freedom of speech. Totally. You know, it's like we really don't because we have to use all these code words and stuff and we can't like put certain like titles or hashtags out because they'll suppress us. And the suppressors are a bunch of scummy little ugly third -world barbarian you -know -whos. Yeah. That's who's like lording over us. Yeah. That's not just.

3:36 No. That's not right. Those people are inferior to us. Yeah. They should not be telling me what I can and can't say. You're a scummy little third -world you -know -who. And it doesn't even matter who they are, but why should anybody be telling us what we can and cannot say? I mean... That is the whole idea of freedom of speech. You should be able to say whatever you want, you know? And they're using 1984 tactics. Right. So what actually triggered this episode? So I've been telling our listeners and I've been telling you You know, we're, we're having a really hard time getting like a following like on Instagram and stuff. And, and I've started Instagram pages before for other things. And it's not that hard to get, you know, to get your stuff out there usually.

4:24 And, um, this has just been like this slow process and there'll be like months where we don't get any followers and it's just weird. Well, I've noticed a few things that I'm like, this is just proof, but I had an obvious proof happen two days ago. Yeah. And that was, I put out a reel and it was, I think it was the one, I'm actually going to look it up to tell you, to tell our listeners which one it actually was, because I think that is even interesting. It was, oh, it was the episode that we did about AI, the movie AI. And we talked about robots and stuff like that. And I'm not even sure that that particular episode was really that alarming to the you -know -whos, but there must have been something in it. But it's happening to all of them and this was the obvious proof. So I put the reel together and I put it out at about like, I think it was about eight o 'clock or nine o 'clock at night.

5:28 And I was texting you. And I was like I put out the reel, you know, and I sent you a copy of it and stuff and then Like about less than an hour later. I went back onto Instagram and I thought oh I'll just check and see like if anybody's looked at it and it had 210 views and I was like, oh in an hour. Yeah in less than an hour it had 210 views and I was like Oh, cool. That's pretty good. You know, and I was like, I can't wait to see how it's done in the morning. Although what I've noticed a lot of times is when I check at night and it has something has like 200 views and I like it'll have 210 views I check in the morning and it's got like 215 like only five more people saw it after after I looked at it 12 hours later, you know, in this case, it was even worse in this case, you know what happened?

6:20 They erased us. So when I looked at it in the morning, that same exact real I only put it out there once. The same one that had 210 views at like nine o 'clock the night before had 35 views the next morning. So it just proves our point, which is not - Why don't they just take it down to zero? Why even leave 35? Well, I think they want to make it look like, oh, you know, a couple people saw it. So it just proves our point, which is not only are they suppressing us and people like us that are saying these things, but - They are because we've suspected for a long time that like you keep saying, you keep saying, I think that we have a lot more followers and a lot more views on stuff than they give us credit for.

7:06 You've been saying that for a long time. Why would they do that? Because if you have a lot of views, you'll get more views because the way that people think is, oh, this is popular. I'll check this out. Yeah. So so not only are they suppressing us, but they're actually deleting the amount of views. So There's no way that like, um, you know, we had, we had 210 views and then those people just unsaw it. Those people didn't unsee it. They already saw it. Let me go ahead and delete my seeing. Yeah. But then they make it look like the next morning they make it look like, Oh, only 35 people saw it. So that was just such obvious, blatant proof that of what they're doing with not only tweaking the algorithm, suppressing us. shadow banning us, but actually going and physically tweaking this thing because it one other time that I had like a very obvious blatant thing was I was like on Instagram and like, it was like 10 new followers popped up and I was like, Oh, that's cool. You know, because we've been struggling to get like people to even like notice it or so we thought. And I think we had like a hundred and 70 or something the day before. So I'm like, okay, we should have around 180. And I looked back and it was 168.

8:28 So it was like as 10 people followed what 12 people unfollowed and I saw the followers that had were popping up as new followers. They were like, they were like disappearing as I was like looking at the list. So it was like an Indian dude that got hired from Calcutta and Mark Zuckerberg told him I have a haircut like Caesar and I tell you what to do and if you don't do what I tell you you're gonna go back to the third world. What I'd like you to do is erase followers from people that we hate because if they get too many followers you're gonna catch fire. That's what they're doing and you know we've suspected it for a long time but I've seen it happen before my eyes and this last incident was blatant. obvious proof and so I'm going to start taking screenshots now of of like the count so I can like actually like I can actually even post it if I want to like show look this is how many views we had last night and this morning we have like not even half that many views so it's just more reason why we need to have alternatives you know Facebook and Instagram shouldn't be the town square and the faggots at X and all the faggots at YouTube, they shouldn't be controlling the public square and what's being said. That's what they're doing.

9:52 And it's very dangerous. You know, they had all this stuff about like during cooties about misinformation and how dangerous that was. But what they're doing is extremely dangerous because they are they're shaping people's perception. and the way people are thinking about stuff. They're actually shaping society. But they're failing. They're failing miserably because people are totally waking up. So all they're really doing is just suppressing everybody and just making it become this gulag, where you have no freedom on their platform. So all we got to do is come up with an alternative where people can speak freely. Right. We need to do that. We need an alternative platform. And we also need people So listeners, we need our listeners to talk and share our episodes with friends because this is like what Firefly always said, like in the beginning, we're like a Chinese restaurant. We're like a Chinese restaurant. We serve good food.

10:58 And the way that we're going to get business is by people telling themselves, hey, that Chinese restaurant is really good. Word of mouth. And I talk to people all the time that go, oh yeah, I listen to podcasts. So people listen to podcasts. They do. We just need to have them listen to ours and we need to have them share it with other people. But this episode, we kind of wanted to talk about 1984 and the dynamics of 1984 because we're living in 1984. We're living in, and everybody needs to reread that book because It's really scary how close to what was happening in that book is actually happening now. So let's talk about the book for a minute. Let's talk about it. So Winston works in the Ministry of Truth.

11:46 And the Ministry of Truth does exactly what you just described. They shape people's minds. And the way they shape people's minds is by omitting certain truths and lying about other stuff. And they put out like a daily newspaper, I think. And the daily newspaper has to be constantly editorialized. Updated. And as that one line that he says, I rewrote history day by day, minute by minute. The history and the news can't contradict the party line Yeah, can't contradict the party narrative. They have to stay with the the current Narrative, that's right. And everybody goes to the two minutes hate and the two minutes hate is kind of like reading the news It's all the two minutes hate is fear and anger Exactly mainstream media. That's what mainstream media wants to instill an alternate fear and anger because when you're afraid and you're angry, you're easily manipulated. So then what happens at the Two Minutes Hate is O 'Brien comes along and O 'Brien is one of the head honchos in the party. And he's at the Two Minutes Hate and he sees Winston and he makes eye contact with him and he kind of gives him a nod like, I'm on board, you know.

13:12 And that's controlled opposition. Right. He's a wolf in sheep's clothing. That's right. And so Alex Jones does that. Trump does that. Tucker does that. And what they do is they come out and they go, Joe Rogan. They go, yeah, no, no, no, totally true. I totally agree with you. You're totally right. You know, but I worked for the Ministry of Truth. But yeah, you're right. And I'm going to torture you until you aren't right. But whatever. And that's what he did. And so what he does is, so Winston has a girlfriend and they fall in love and they have a relationship, but then they both get taken by O 'Brien and tortured. And O 'Brien is torturing him and he goes, why don't you just kill me? And he goes, no way, I'm never gonna kill you because if you die without capitulating and saying two plus two is five. then other people are going to be inspired by that. We crush all hope of dissidence.

14:13 So what I'm going to do is I'm going to torture you and torture you and torture you and not let you out of this room until you finally say two plus two equals five and believe it and mean it. And that's what they're doing to us. And that's what they're doing to us. And what ends up happening is both him and his girlfriend get broken. in the end. And then they see each other in the coffee shop and they don't even want to look at each other. They're just disgusted with each other because both of them caved in. And it kind of pertained to a couple of different things that we're looking at today. So the one of them is my one of my favorite bands is called Ministry. And they came out with the song New World Order back in like it must have been like the late 80s or the early 90s. and it totally had like that industrial sound kind of like Nine Inch Nails or Marilyn Manson, but it was way before that. And he had a red pill message. Which was kind of weird because he still got foisted and he still was on MTV, right? So it's almost kind of like It is it's controlled opposition But what he came out and said was kind of a Winston Winston Ian kind of thing to say He came out today and he was like we've been doing this for 40 years and nothing's getting better. Things are only getting worse Nobody cares about our message. So we're just gonna hang it up We're quit and no one cares about the message. That's kind of black pill. That's black pill. You know

15:43 what I'm saying? Yeah. But then we also talked about Socrates. Yeah. And Socrates was Plato's master and he taught Plato. And what happened was the corrupt Greek government at the time, they said, you're corrupting our youth. and you're speaking out against the government and they killed him and they made him drink poisonous hemlock well they they kind of gave him an option to um be um say two plus two is five to be um winstoned and and go along with their narrative but he refused he stuck to his guns and he wasn't going to bend on um the truth that he was speaking about And that inspired Plato because when he died for what he believed in, Plato told everybody that and that changed Greece. And that's what I think has to happen is somebody has to be willing to go the full nine yards and stick to their guns. But Socrates refused to say two plus two equals five. He said two plus two equals four and I'll die for that. And they killed him. Metaphorically.

16:54 Metaphorically. No, but they really killed him. No, I know, but he didn't. really say two plus two equals five. That was in 1984. Two plus two equals five is a metaphor for drink the Kool -Aid and tow the party line. That's right. You know what? Even though you know the truth is different than the mainstream truth, you're gonna just go along with it and say what we want you to say. And a lot of people are like that. Yeah. A lot of people are like that. They're like, dude, I don't want to fight against these people. It's too gnarly. Just say what they want you to say. And that is such a weak capitulation it is it's so lame and it's um it's a black pill situation too in a way because you're just kind of accepting the plights and accepting just how it is yeah and we don't we don't go along with that no we think that um the better way is more of a white pill which is We just have to keep going and we have to keep spreading the word and we're pissing them off. Obviously. And, you know, people, a lot of people, you know, they might be like, Oh God, they hardly, you know, they only have a couple hundred people listening.

18:04 Like what, how could they possibly be doing any damage? No, what, what happened the last couple of days, what I just talked about on the Instagram thing, it proves that there's a lot more people listening and seeing our stuff. And they're just completely like. Tweaking it in a way to make it look like nobody's listening Nobody's watching because they want to break us down and make us go away and there's other cannot go viral No, because you know how devastating it is to them if we go viral Yeah, and there's other people like us too. There's probably there's probably a thousand other people talking like this in the same boat You know and they're not gonna be able to win. See just look at the calculus of that We've got a bunch of people talking.

18:47 You and I have woken a lot of people up. Totally. And so now there's like an army of people who thinks like us. And all that these little fags can do in social media is try to suppress us. They're not going to be able to. No. And pretty soon we're going to form an alternative platform. And it's like, you know, Instagram isn't our only game. You know, we've got stuff out there on all different platforms. Spotify. Apple. We got Apple. Bitshoot is pretty good. Bitshoot is doing pretty good. Yeah, Rumble. We got Rumble. Rumble completely suppresses us, but the thing that they can't stop is when we diversify our message like that and put it out to a bunch of different platforms. Exactly. They can't play Whac -A -Mole. No, and then when we have listeners who share the episodes, they can't stop that.

19:37 They can't. You know? They can't stop that. So they're not going to be able to stop us. The only thing that would stop them, the only thing that would stop us is If we did like ministry does and just go, you know what? No one's changing. Yeah. We've been saying this for so long. It's just I'm over it. And it does get frustrating, extremely frustrating. And it bums us out sometimes because we're like, you know, we're trying to put out these messages and we're trying to build a community and they're just like preventing it, you know. But I think just what you said, we have we just keep going and. They can't, they can only do so much, you know? Well, you know, you have to be, uh, convicted. We're convicted.

20:23 So, um, we were talking about like the, um, the whole dynamic with O 'Brien, um, uh, and Winston. And I said, it's kind of like the, um, the Piyogo thing. let's talk about Piyogo and Operation Piyogo and Operation Zephyr again, because it's almost like that was when he made eye contact with Winston, it was like he was Piyogo to him. And then the torture was the Zephyr. That's right. So let's like kind of revisit those two. Things talk about it. Let's talk about it in case some of our listeners might not have heard us talk about that or might not know what those things are but those are very real and kind of scary like that's real 1984 stuff going on now. Yeah, so what happened is This guy David Goldberg or Goldstein. He's definitely a you -know -who He came out and did a video in 2019 and it was just audio. Actually, it was just an audio and what he says is There's a weird van in front of my house and I don't know, it's kind of watching me. So just be careful out there everybody. And the next day he got killed. Right. According to what I've read about him. Yeah. But what was he talking about? So what he came out and he said was, oh yeah, no, no, no. The you know who's

21:54 the people from that country from 1948. They're terrified because too many people are onto them and too many people are talking about them. So. They can't do what their initial plan was, which was just go and scoop up dissidents one by one and destroy them and kill them. There's too many, so they don't know what to do. So what they had to do was they had to create these two programs, Operation Piyogo and Operation Zephyr. So Operation Piyogo is done by controlled opposition like Stu Peters and Alex Jones and Tucker and Trump. So what they do is they put out messaging that they don't care about. See, people like Stu Peters, Alex Jones, Tucker, and Trump, they stand for nothing. They'll say anything their handlers tell them just so that they can have chicks and money. Joe Rogan. Joe Rogan. They'll say anything for chicks and money. They don't stand for anything.

22:53 Truth means nothing to them. So what they'll do is they'll come out and they'll play a role. And what they'll do is they'll come out and they'll go like Alex Jones and go, oh, yeah, no, no, no, no, you can't even get a job in the FBI unless you like have sex with a kid, you know, and I'm incredibly well at doubt. Then you go, dude, you know, I totally agree with that. He's right. Blah, blah, blah. So you start listening to Alex Jones. You think that they're on your side. You think they're on your side. And now maybe you make a comment or maybe you buy something from the store. They now join their mailing list that you become one of their members. So you're part of their scene. So Operation Piyogo goes, good, good, good. Look at here. We have somebody who thinks like this. So it's a database. It's a database. And once you say, oh yes, Stu Peters, dude, I'll watch Occupied, that documentary.

23:52 It goes, good, good, good. Now we know that you want this content. And you like that dude who has sex with nine chicks a day. What was his name? Dan Belzerian. Yeah. My name's Dan Balzerri, and I want to go to war with those people from 1948. You know, he's just an actor. That dude stands for nothing. That dude has nothing to say, and he stands for nothing. But what he does is he puts out this, we're going to go to war with those people from the country from 1948. He's probably from that country from 1948. He kind of looks like he is. He's got kind of a Jew beard. So anyways. He comes out and says that, and when you click like or you comment and say, yeah, Dan, I'm with you, bro. Let's kick some ass. Then Operation Pyoko goes, good, good, good. Add this one. They add your name to the list. So now they have this big list.

24:48 And these are all people who... We're on those lists. We're on them, totally. So they have this big list of people who said stuff against them, and they're the dissidents. They're the ones who are going to be opposed to the New World Order. And so then what David Goldberg said was, so Operation P .O .G .O. is the first step. Yeah. And that's just a data collection. And it's kind of like Palantir. They surveil you and then they build a profile on you. Then they decide whether or not to kill you. Right. Now the second step is Operation Zephyr. And then in Zephyr, that's where they kill you. That's where they round you up. And so what David Goldberg came out and said was, he goes, I can't be a part of this.

25:37 It's just too evil. Which I'm starting to think maybe it was all fake. Maybe he was just controlled opposition and throwing that out there because they have to reveal the method. So he just revealed the method. He probably didn't get killed because he's from that country from 1948. He's in the tribe, bro. He didn't get killed. I don't think all those people are evil though. I think some of them um just like the some of the actors and musicians and stuff i think start to see the light and they want to get out and they that's when they get unalived they get unalived or they get suicided or they get um you know they have to suddenly go to rehab or somehow they get re -calibrated yeah britney was driving 110 miles an hour westlake and then she's like well that's kind of weird when you drive fast exactly that's weird she was going 110 miles per hour in in Westlake. So now she'll be in a halfway house for the next year and a half. I was like, well, that doesn't really, the math doesn't math on that. No, it doesn't. You don't go to a halfway house with your driving. I got a speedy ticket once and I was going like 120 miles an hour and they didn't send me to a halfway house. You don't go to a halfway house. Halfway house is where you go when you've got serious fucked up problems and you have to have like a group setting. Right.

26:57 They need to kind of keep you. like a very expensive speeding ticket. Totally. No, Brittany probably is going off the rails because I think you're right. Wasn't she in the Disney program? She was a Disney kid. Mickey Mouse Club. She was Mickey Mouse Club. Yeah. So she started getting MK Ultra probably really young. Yeah. Mickey Mouse Club is probably rape and torture club. Yeah, that's code word for MK Ultra. M -I -K. No, no. M -K -U. L, T, R, A, A, A, A, M, K, ULTRA, M, K, ULTRA. Because that's totally what was going on. Britney was probably raped and tortured when she was like seven years old. She probably became a sex operative and that wasn't part of her. Like they don't talk about that on Rolling Stone magazine interviews, but they're like, did you have sex with like politicians when you were 13? She's like, yeah, you know. That's so gross. So gross. But so she probably was born into it. Yeah. Her mom and dad are probably total like desperate for fame cult members. Totally.

28:07 They probably grew. She probably grew up and was born in like some little podunk town in Midwest. Is that where she's from? I think she's from like somewhere in the south or like, you know, I don't know. Oklahoma or Tennessee or somewhere like that. She's from flyover country. She kind of has like that kind of little bit of an accent once in a while. Yeah. So she's from somewhere in flyover country. Yeah. And what happens in flyover country is they worship the media and all they want to do is become a big somebody and they'll do anything. So her parents probably want to be a big somebody. So they go, Brittany, you're going into the MKUltra program. It's going to be called the Mickey Mouse Club. They sold her into it. I wouldn't be surprised. So then she got all fucked up. She didn't choose it.

28:54 but she got all fucked up. And now she's an adult and she wants to get out of it. And Satan goes, I'm afraid you can't. No, once you're in, you're in. You know too much. Yeah. You know? I mean, how many satanic parties have you been to? It's not going to work. You're going to either die or... Recalibration. Yeah. Just go along. It's the best for you. So I think that's true. You know what I'm saying? I think Justin Bieber might be going through a similar situation. I think so too. You know, Justin Bieber probably wants out of the cult, but he's not gonna be able to because Satan goes, no, I'm afraid not. You've been to the Diddy parties. You know, you got diddled by Diddy. I'm afraid you can't talk because if you talk, our whole... See, that's the other thing too. That's why they suppress our views on Instagram is... Words will tear down the whole house of cards. Totally. We're not in a hot war where you need to be a violent person who kicks ass, UFC fights and stuff. That's all just blood.

29:59 What do they call that? Blood sports. Yeah. UFC and all that stuff. That's just like feeding the Coliseum, Bread and Circus blood sport. But words are what's going to bring this cabal down. And they know that. And that's why they want to keep people like us shut up. And that's why they can't let Justin Bieber go off the rails. And they can't let Britney go, you know, because even though those two are kind of retarded, they're not smart people. But if they came out and just kind of like set a few recollections from like what happened to them in like the early 2000s, everyone's going to be like, oh. Well, they have a huge following, so. Totally. Yeah. And so, you know, they come out and make a statement like that. How important it is to have a following.

30:47 Yeah. People follow. But they won't, if they come out and say stuff, that following, they'll probably just delete everything they say and be like, no, no, you know. So they can't, that just goes to show that the culture club is not impervious. They're not all powerful. They're very... They're very nervous about people talking. They are. And I think it's a really important point about Socrates, which was, you know, and what the point that you made about how their Operation Zephyr plan to round everybody up and just like kill them, you know, maybe if there was like not that many of us, it would be easier for them to do. but with so many like so for Socrates and like Jesus even you know they killed these people because they didn't want them talking but like now there's too many of us and so they would like to round us all up and kill us that's a good point because what did they say as to why Socrates got killed they said you're corrupting the youth corrupting the youth yeah so that means They're like, no, we're brainwashing the youth and you're offsetting that exactly And he was just trying to speak truth and he what he said that unexamined life is not worth living Like that they wanted everybody to just go along with

32:17 what they were telling them to go like the blue pill like ciphered from the matrix ignorance Totally that's what they so people have been followers and have been led astray and have been blue -pilled for thousands of years. What's interesting is Plato was Socrates' apprentice and Plato coined the term Plato's cave. What happens in Plato's cave is the people are down in a cave watching a projected image on the wall and they think that's reality. But then some people get up and they walk out of the cave and they go find reality outside and they go, this is reality, not that cave in the projected image. So even all the way back then, the same dynamic existed. You have people that are completely encased in this media bubble. Totally. Well, so in the book 1984, which was written in 1948, and he worked for the Ministry of Truth and he was rewriting history.

33:22 I thought it was really interesting the way they described it in the book. He would write the article or whatever and change all the dates and the facts and the names and this and that. And then he'd roll it up and stick it in this little tube and it would shoot up through some sort of pipe and get sucked out into where it had to be printed. It kind of reminded me of, remember those banks back when we were kids, like you would go through the drive up in the tube, suck up your check. Yeah, I remember. Yeah, I remember my mom like putting her deposit or whatever in the little tube thingy and it would like suck it up and go into the the building.

34:06 That was so cool. I was like, yes. Awesome. It kind of sounded like that kind of thing that he described, which was, you know, In those days, that was like the modern thing, whereas now we have the internet. So you just put it out there and it like goes everywhere, you know? Totally. And in Plato's time, they had like a projection somehow on a cave wall. So they've always kind of had like media stuff going on that people would follow. And now what we're starting to see is like the... VR goggles and the stuff where people can just sort of escape into like this unreal reality. It's a veil of lies that they have to pull over your eyes so that you can't see the truth because the truth will set you free and they need you to be under their thumb.

35:04 That's such a good slogan for us. They need the wool pulled over your eyes. They need to have you be blinded by a bunch of lies. because if you're blinded by a bunch of lies, you're going to be their slave. Exactly. And you know, another thing Socrates said is no one is hated as much as the man who tells the truth. Oh, that's so good. That's so good because why would that be? Everybody's in Plato's cave and they get Cogniz. And when you go tell them the truth, they get cognizant and they go, shut up. They get angry. They want to shoot the messenger. You don't tell me those truths. Yeah. Those are painful for me. Yeah. They'd rather just like go along with whatever the media is telling them. I'm playing cornhole and we're vaping. And we're playing cornhole. We've got what are those new things that they drink? They're called like Claws. Yeah, have you seen those? It's like these cans of alcohol, but they've got really into that It's kind of like a do you remember burles and James?

36:11 Yeah, like a wine cooler. Yeah, or remember? What was it called? I want to say Zika. I don't know if that was it Yeah It was like a clear beer. Yeah, that was like the kind of Zima Zima That was the precursor to these quad grapes. Go get a six pack of Zima's. They were gross. They were gross, but it was like an alternative to beer. Yeah. So that's what people want to do these days. They want to play cornhole and vape and drink Zima. We did a whole episode on the new thing that I think is going to start getting to be really popular, which is those like... THC cocktails. Oh, yeah in the can Which is weird to me. It's like let's just like promote like a whole, you know new Generation to be completely addicted to some new thing now, you know, it's all the blue pill Yeah, and it's probably got chemicals that are conducive to blue pill totally, you know, so it's basically saying no, no, no Just as a matter of fact, that's why Socrates said an unexamined life is not a life worth living.

37:24 Is it something like that? Was that what you said? That's what he said. That's why he's saying that. Because those people don't live an examined life. No. They go play cornhole and they drink those things and they just go, whatever. You know what? I'm in the in crowd. I've got my Tesla. I got my house. My daughters are in college. I got everything I need. You know? That's an unexamined life. That's a cowardice. They don't want to speak the truth because they're afraid. Well, and also I think those people don't realize what they're cowering to because they're going to allow a world that is not going to be a good place to live for their children. No, it's a very selfish thing to do. That's what we think about all the time. Totally. I mean, we could probably be fine. like the rest of our lives.

38:26 It might not get too much more horrible. I don't know. It could. It's getting pretty bad pretty fast. Oh my God. Think about how popular we would be if we did a podcast where we just talked about nothing for two hours. I know. We'd be so popular. I know. And we'd be making fat bank. But you know, we think about our kids. We think about our kids and then I think about grandkids growing up in a really strange place where you can't even talk or everybody's just living in some digital, like, not even real reality. Yeah. It's a digital plug. And you know what? Like that one kid was playing video games and he was like, oh, these dumb kids. Oh, oh, shit, I got kicked off this platform. I'm going to go to another platform. Yeah. And that's kind of how people react to it. Yeah. They just accept we live in cancel culture. Yeah. Like everybody's constantly editing in real time. editing what you're saying like so you don't say the wrong thing like it's like we're living in China because that's what they have to do there and they're okay with it they've been like that for so long that they've accepted that like they're like oh it's good everybody's really well behaved blah blah blah no that's not a good way to be like those are the people who when you tell them the truth they get mad yeah they get cogniz They get mad and they go, I don't want to hear those truths because those are going to burst my bubble. Yeah. And those you don't burst my bubble. But that's really annoying when you burst my bubble. To be constantly editing in real time is not authentic. And it's

39:58 not like a real it's not a real way to live. And it's like, I think you end up with everybody sort of like being Like a drone or like a Like everybody's out of a like a cookie cutter Factory, everybody's sort of the same thinking the same way and remember that girl You said you worked with and you said something and she said I think I'm offended Yeah, like I'm offended. Wait a second. She wasn't even sure but she thought that was the right thing to be Let me recall my media rules. Yeah, I think I'm offended by that. Yeah So that's what's going to be happening is people won't even know. Or how about Katanji Jackson or what was her name? She got confirmed to the Supreme Court and she's a full -on blacktivist.

40:53 And she's like, they're like, well, can you define what a woman is? Yeah. And she's like, no, I cannot. It's like, you know, because she's afraid to be... To say the wrong thing. Yeah, she's just a coward. And she just wants to just edit herself until she can go play cornhole. And then they can just go drink. And then everybody just wants to go to their happy place. And they just want to live in their happy place and just leave me alone. Hey, you know what? We like to live in a happy place too, but we want the whole place to be happy. We want real. I can't rest in tyranny.

41:36 I can't just set my... Just just go put my feet up and just be like, it's tyranny, but whatever. I have everything I need. So fuck it. Right. That's not the that's a horrible mentality. Yeah. So I think that was the gist of this episode is we live in 1984 act accordingly. You know what I'm saying? And be Socrates. Yeah. I was just going to say, look at Socrates. He, you know, he died for what he thought was right. And then after him, more truth came out. Plato commemorated what he did. People were inspired by it and it caused a revolution in Greece because now those oppressors didn't oppress anymore.

42:20 The young kids all looked up to Socrates and now look at how many years has it been? It's been, you know, three, four thousand years since he lived and me and you are sitting here talking about it. Right. Those are the people that changed the world. How many millions and billions of people don't do anything? You just go play cornhole, you drink Budweiser, and then you croak. You did nothing. You were too much of a coward because you didn't want to lose your little cushy lifestyle. So all you did was live your meaningless life and croak. I think that sounds like a tragedy to me. I can't just... I've never been able to just be like, well, I have sex, money, and status, and my lifestyle is good, and my circumstances are good, and look at my material wherewithal, I'm fine. That's never been satisfactory to me.

43:12 It has to be real. Well, now, even more than ever, there's a situation happening in our world. And, you know, we need to, more people need to Stand up and speak up about it so that we can stop what they want to happen and our children our children will have a You know, we want I I just want like our kids to be able to grow up in the kind of world that we grew up in, because it was pretty good, you know? And we need to get rid of all of these. It was debaucherous. We were already on the downward slope. We were.

43:54 We were. You know? But we had awesome music. We want our kids to grow up in, what, like the 50s? Probably. With, like, our music. But with our music. Like, you know, what we need to go back to is Christian values. That's all. We can still have killer music and fun times, but we have to have Christian values and morality. What I think has happened is we've become immoral, bottomless pits. And that's by design. Totally by design. That is part of the communism manifesto. Totally. And the plan. That's why they push porn and train crap. It's all part of the plan. There's steps to communism and the take down of a society. And we're kind of, you know, we've checked off a lot of those steps now and We're at like the 250 year mark. So we're kind of due to be taken down. But we don't have to let that happen. Mila Kunis is lying in that one movie. Mila Kunis is lying in that one movie. She's kind of a harbinger of the end of civilization. She's like, I hate babies. I love my career. When women are weaponized against their own families and the family structure like that, That's a harbinger of the end of civilization.

45:06 And look at what we just saw with that Lindsay Clancy case where she killed her three children and she had a huge following of people saying, I stand with Lindsay. We went in solidarity with her. We live in a patriarchy. She was stressed out. It's okay. She killed her kid. She was working late nights. That's why she killed her three kids. And I made brownie. And the media was fine with that. They weren't saying, like, what's wrong with all these women, you know, like, they're all crazy and they want to kill their kids. And then also like, oh my god, Christa Pike might not even pull through after her execution. How brutal, they executed her and she survived. How mean to do that to her even though back in 90s she lured some girl into the woods and killed her and then chopped her up and then took part of her brain. part of her school, showed her school to people, but gosh darn it, they're being so mean to her now. They want us to basically just worship women who go off the rails and hate their families and become just total psychopaths and total self -centered. That's what they want to promote. But we have to be like Socrates.

46:14 We have to have people who are willing to stand up and die if need be for what they believe in. And that spirit is what causes revolutions. And I don't think anybody needs to die if we all pull together, you know what I mean? These little third -world barbarian you -know -whos that run Google and that run like Facebook and Instagram, these are not guys that I'm afraid of, dude. No. No. No. The reason that they have any power at all is because they go, well, we decide who talks and who doesn't. Yeah, and you only have like 150 followers now on Instagram because, you know, they were disappearing faster than they could actually follow you. And those comments that you, we say that you've got comments, but you can't actually see any of the comments. So we just like completely control your account.

47:12 We control everything. Whatever. And that's why you see the people who are popular now. It's all because they've been allowed gateway access to the population. And there's a reason for that. Totally. Like Ryan Reynolds and his PE coach is like, no, no, no, he's a psychopath. And they go, good, good, good. He's going to be an A -list actor. What's that movie he's in where he's a superhero? Deadpool. Yeah. You'll be in Deadpool. You're a psychopath. Good, good, good. Here's a whole franchise for you. Oh, God. We'll go ahead and promote that for you, okay? Yeah. So the white pill is, let's be Socrates. Don't be Winston because Winston and his girlfriend, they end up getting tortured into saying two plus two equals five. And then they just were broken.

48:01 Broken. And then they didn't even want to look at each other. They were so disgusted by what they did. So what do you do? You save your ass so that you can have that? That doesn't matter. And then what good did it do? They're living in hell. Totally. They lived in that 1984 hell on earth. And even George Orwell in his last interview said, the solution is up to you. The solution is up to you. You have to stand up and you have to remember that one person has power. Totally. One voice has power. People kind of tend to think that, you know, especially these days that we're worthless and your life doesn't really have any value. but it does it does it does have value yeah you know i think that when people kill themselves that's what goes through their mind is my life is worthless yeah no but it's not it's not your one voice is very important and who knows that the climate can change no pun intended yeah we can have clay age in a different way. It's social client age. Yeah, I love it.

49:07 We can be on board with client age too. Totally. It might be an ice age or it might boil over. Exactly. But it's a change. It is. Because right now, if you look at how they're behaving with us on Insta, that's kind of a desperate move. It is. You know? I can just picture them like in their little control towers just scrambling like, quick, quick, quick, delete those views, delete those views. Habib, I want you to take them from 230 views down to 35. Do it right away. Maybe she didn't notice yet. I'm gonna send you back to Calcutta if you don't do that. Okay, I am on it right now, you know? Because, you know, that's a desperate move. It is. Because what? If we were powerless, They would just let us say whatever we wanted and let us do it. You guys ain't shit. The fact that they have to suppress people and shadow ban people and cancel people, that's insecurity. They're not secure in their power. And that shows that what we're talking about is significant and it's important. And that last thing I'll say about 1984, it says, Power is an end, not a means to these people.

50:33 So therefore, these people don't want power so that they can bring about positive change or, you know, like they just want to go serve because they want to give back to the community and then they go back to their families. That's an organic service. These people want power because... For the sake of power. For the power. They want power to be the end, where they're just in power and we just all accept that. Yeah. They want to be O 'Brien. They want to be O 'Brien. They want to lord over us. And that's what they think they're entitled to do. Yeah. They think that they're entitled to lord over us. Well, I disagree with that. I disagree too. So, you know, let's see what's going to happen. We're kind of, you know...

51:17 We're poking the bear. You ever heard that song by ELO? And it goes... Heading for a showdown. That's what we're doing. Totally. I know. Let's see what they do in this, uh, this episode. That'll be interesting. Oh, every one of our episodes, every time we come out with a new episode, they go, Oh my God, just make sure no one on earth. Nobody on earth can see this. No one on earth. You know, cause it's just, Oh my God. Cause I think that, uh, you know, They probably can't stand our voice. Oh, I'm sure. Like when they hear us, they're just like squirming in their seats. And I'm glad. I am too. I love that. Anything else on this one? This was a great idea. I know.

52:04 And it was such a good way of putting it because, you know, you could have got blackpilled. Because it's so annoying. We're getting total viral within an hour 200 views. That's something that could have easily become millions of views Yeah, if it was gonna keep going at that rate by the next morning It would it should have had thousands right thousands. Yeah, and that would have probably generated by millions Hopefully, you know because when you see a trend like that, it's gonna continue Yeah, but you know, it's so all of our reels have kind of been like that too where they get like 100 or something right away. And then the next morning when I check, it's only got three more than it did. We had episodes on Rumble.

52:44 Rumble did that. For instance, we did our episode on JFK within the first few months that we started doing the podcast. Within like an hour we had 350 views and if you go to the episode now, it's got 350 Like after a year like not one other person will watched it So in an hour 350 people watching then nobody else cared about it. Yeah year. Yeah, that doesn't make any kind of sense All right, we'll talk to you bye I gotta put my glasses on to turn it off